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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:23 pm

I did a Googlel Search and found his book on sacred Texts
The Book of Earths: Earth a Hollow Sphere

Earth a Hollow Sphere

WITH THE Symmes Theory of Concentric Spheres we take up, for the first time, a cosmogony of the nineteenth century. In this flight through worlds we have spanned not only the centuries but the oceans and continents of the Earth. We are in the year of our Lord, 1818, in America, and at St. Louis, Missouri, on the western bank of the mightiest river of the Earth. We are on the continent whose aboriginal inhabitants have, running through all their mythologies and traditions, the tradition and myth of a "hollow Earth," and we are about to consider, in their order, three modern American theories of the figure of Earth, all of them based on the assumption that this planet is a hollow sphere, habitable within.

A brief circular announced the first of these:

Light gives light to light discover--ad infinitum

St. Louis (Missouri Territory)

NORTH AMERICA, April 10, A.D., 1818

TO ALL THE WORLD:

I declare that the earth is hollow and habitable within; containing a number of solid concentric spheres, one within the other, and that it is open at the poles twelve or sixteen degrees. I pledge my life in support of this truth, and am ready to explore the hollow, if the world will support and aid me in this undertaking.

JNO. CLEVES SYMMES
Of Ohio, late Captain of Infantry
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as to how old the understanding of a hollow earth --- I found some amazing points in the first few paragraphs - but before I share that, Id like to draw your memory back to the videos posted of where the Hopi and Dine'h or Navajo had come out of the inner earth.

I remember thinking then that this is proof too of an inner earth or hollow earth.

what I read next made me realize and give thanks for this trail that the Creator had led me on - because it had, just like our teaching say, brought all the fibers together and rewove them in a strong braid. (cherokee)

I remembered to my own algonquin foster mother teaching me how all things were a circle and many circles within a circle. I was taken outside and we blew bubbles with her husband and her grandson. This reminds me of the earth'', I was told.

The bubbles danced in the breeze and shone brightly with the sun - yes I thought circles within circles this is all of life.

I remember that teaching as if it was yesterday and so when I read this in the book I knew that our people had learned this a long time ago and carried it with us .....

here is the next bit of the book=



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pg 240

But it is interesting to consider that three "concave" cosmogonies have sprung up within less than a century on this continent whose aborigines believed in the hollowness of their "great Island." The Montagnais held the earth to be pierced through and through; that the Sun set by entering one hole and hiding inside the Earth during the night; that it rose by emerging from the opposite hole. Numberless tribes have the tradition that formerly their race lived underground, until some adventurous youth climbed upwards by some great vine to the outer surface of the Earth, and, finding it delightful and habitable, returned and brought their people out of the "concave." Indian gods fell from Heaven, through the Earth; and vanished races were those who had returned to their first homes. How much of this Symmes had picked up through fraternising with the western Indians, or whether he had ever heard any of this tradition from them, we shall probably never know.


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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:04 am

:feather: Micjer thanks for starting such a wonderful thread, sharing so many great articles and messages and most of all for being such a great friend -- I learned a great deal on this thread and was able to close a circle :feather:
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:26 am

Thank you Day for adding so much research to this topic. It is nice to share info with others that are on the same journey of investigation.

It is one of those things in life that may seem like a stretch at first, but when you look into it, it starts to make more sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:31 am

Day wrote... what I read next made me realize and give thanks for this trail that the Creator had led me on - because it had, just like our teaching say, brought all the fibers together and rewove them in a strong braid. (cherokee)


I love this. This sums up this thread.



One thing I am struggling with.....the inhabitants of the inner earth are said to be giants.


This brings up the word nephilim again.


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Fallen angels
The Targum Jonathan states that the Nephilim were given this name because they were descended from fallen angels.[11]

The New American Bible commentary draws a parallel to the Epistle of Jude and the statements set forth in Genesis, suggesting that the Epistle refers implicitly to the paternity of Nephilim as heavenly beings who came to earth and had sexual intercourse with women.[12] The footnotes of the Jerusalem Bible suggest that the Biblical author intended the Nephilim to be an "anecdote of a superhuman race".[13] Genesis 6:4 implies that the Nephilim have inhabited the earth in at least two different time periods—in antediluvian times "and afterward." If the Nephilim were supernatural beings themselves, or at least the progeny of supernatural beings, it is possible that the "giants of Canaan" in Book of Numbers 13:33 were the direct descendants of the antediluvian Nephilim, or were fathered by the same supernatural parents.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

This is interesting also....

In Aramaic culture, the term Nephila specifically referred to the constellation of Orion, and thus Nephilim to Orion's semi-divine descendants (cf. Anakim from Anak);[14] the implication being that this also is the origin of the Biblical Nephilim.

I think I will start a seperate thread to discuss this topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:46 am

I see Day you already started a thread. Good! Now let's expand on this. Are these giants the same as the inhabitants of the hollow earth? Are we being told that they are evil, but in reality they are not?

I will watch the you tube vids you posted before I comment any more. BRB (be right back)!!
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:11 pm



I started this thread a while ago - glad we're going to go with it now

So it all sounds good my friend ...

the cherokee have stories about the giants --

ill wait until you have seen the videos and have posted ....
the book of Enoch makes everything all clear...its amazing. :feather:


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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:29 pm

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In Aramaic culture, the term Nephila specifically referred to the constellation of Orion, and thus Nephilim to Orion's semi-divine descendants (cf. Anakim from Anak);[14] the implication being that this also is the origin of the Biblical Nephilim.

well mic....thats interesting ... i have more info about that ...

well we're off to a great start :feather:

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:16 am

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According to these texts, the fallen angels who begat the Nephilim were cast into Tartarus/Gehenna, a place of 'total darkness'. However, Jubilees also states that God granted ten percent of the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim to remain after the flood, as demons, to try to lead the human race astray (through idolatry, the occult, etc.) until the final Judgment.

In addition to Enoch, the Book of Jubilees (7:21–25) also states that ridding the Earth of these Nephilim was one of God's purposes for flooding the Earth in Noah's time. The Biblical reference to Noah being "perfect in his generations" may have referred to his having a clean, Nephilim-free bloodline, although it may be inferred that there was more diversity among his three daughters-in law.[citation needed]

These works describe the Nephilim as being evil giants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim



Certainly the giants that were seen in the hollow earth stories do not fit the above description. They were said to be gentle loving giants. Are they the descendants of the Nephilim, but have grown spiritually to become loving beings?

This would compare to oz as origionally it was a place for Britain to send their criminals and outcasts.

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During the period between 1788 and 1868, about 160,000 convicts were sent to Australia. What happened to them when they got to Australia depended on their skills or education, how they behaved themselves and some luck. The First Fleet carried 780 British convicts who landed in Botany Bay, New South Wales. Two more convict fleets arrived in 1790 and 1791, and the first free settlers didn' arrived until 1793. During this period, the colony of New South Wales was officially a penal colony comprising mainly of convicts, marines and the wives of the marines.

http://www.australianhistory.org/convicts.php

Now I think the descendants of these folks have turned out ok!!!



Or.....are they two totally different things.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:45 pm

Hi mic I found this video and thought of our search - there are so many kinds
of humanoid beings shown in it that we may find not only giants of inner earth,
but all the other nasties from the time of Enoch. Perhaps both are true and a
deep investigation may help expand our understanding :feather:

here is a video showing the giants of Peru, Turkey, India and China



here's my take on this --- its good to go through the book of Enoch while
we bring the evidence we find to the thread sunny
but not limit our search to only the book of Enoch, there are many other
legends as you have found already about the race of people living in
the Earth. :feather:

What I am seeing is that - yes there were very evil giants because there are
stories in our legends about them. Our legends are not wrong. We also have
stories about different kinds of people living in the earth that are good kind
and very close to the Creator- they are part bird and have a beautiful way of
singing/talking and are very sensitive. RedElk talks about them :feather:


so why not follow this road and go down all the off roads and back road and some
of the main highways in our search to see what we can find and bring it here to the
thread for our examination...and see what we can come up with --
we may (more than likely) surprise ourselves ! :feather:

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:28 pm

scratch

i think this vid may fit here.....talk of giants around Min 27 on





Klaus Dona comes from the art world. As Art Exhibition Curator for the Habsburg Haus of Austria, Klaus has organized exhibitions world wide. With this background his approach to archeology is unconventional. He has traveled the world in search of unique and unexplained findings. Intrepid and unrelenting, he is on a mission to bring to the eye of the public such finds as giant bones, crystal skulls, carvings and sculptures in forms that do not fit into the contemporary view of our timeline.

We spent an afternoon with him in Vienna talking at length about his process, his particularly stunning finds and why he is motivated to pursue this unusual vocation. Staunchly open minded, he refuses to retreat in the face of skepticism and doubt. Low on funding, he presses on to discover the real mysteries, going down through the centuries and excavating artifacts that science does not allow for, proving the existence of physical proof that humanity has barely grazed the surface of our heritage here on Earth.

Kerry Lynn Cassidy
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Tags: archaeology ETs giants project camelot hidden science 2012 aliens ufos
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:55 pm

day wrote:
Hi mic I found this video and thought of our search - there are so many kinds
of humanoid beings shown in it that we may find not only giants of inner earth,
but all the other nasties from the time of Enoch. Perhaps both are true and a
deep investigation may help expand our understanding :feather:

here is a video showing the giants of Peru, Turkey, India and China



here's my take on this --- its good to go through the book of Enoch while
we bring the evidence we find to the thread sunny
but not limit our search to only the book of Enoch, there are many other
legends as you have found already about the race of people living in
the Earth. :feather:

What I am seeing is that - yes there were very evil giants because there are
stories in our legends about them. Our legends are not wrong. We also have
stories about different kinds of people living in the earth that are good kind
and very close to the Creator- they are part bird and have a beautiful way of
singing/talking and are very sensitive. RedElk talks about them :feather:


so why not follow this road and go down all the off roads and back road and some
of the main highways in our search to see what we can find and bring it here to the
thread for our examination...and see what we can come up with --
we may (more than likely) surprise ourselves ! :feather:

drive drive





Micjer - I found some more info that relates to both more science about the hollow earth and and the giants / strange creatures and I feel that this thread might go better included with the hollow earth thread

perhaps Reunite could move this thread sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:20 pm

Perhaps I may

drive

Ok I've parked it.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:40 pm

Reunite wrote:
Perhaps I may

drive

Ok I've parked it.

cowboy howdy R! Thank ya kindly!

drive hey that was fast lol !
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:07 pm

drive ok Mic have car - will travel!!

on to the next adventure!
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:40 pm

cheers
as a follow up to the interview i was looking up Klaus Dona
the pic of him here must be much younger..or someone else..
but it was for the exo-politic 2009
has camelot hired an actor
did the site have the wrong pic
the pics are what he talked of in the camelot interview
..hummmmmmmm I dunno

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http://www.exopoliticseurope.com/en/ponentes/klaus-dona-exopolitics-summit.htm





Klaus Dona is the Art Exhibition Curator for the Habsburg Haus of Austria. Mr. Dona organizes the exhibitions world wide. Being a specialist in culture and art exhibitions, his attention was automatically drawn to a phenomenon called 'oo-parts'. Out of context or common logic archeological pieces, meaning artifacts that should not exist according to current science. Klaus Dona has been researching these types of artifacts for over a decade and, after a long preparation, decided to set up an exhibition of these pieces, which he called ''Unsolved Mysteries''.

He has gotten hold of pieces that come from places such as Roswell, New Mexico; a still intact chupacabras esqueleton; as well as giant's (Nephilim) bones, a feat no one had been able to achieve since museums bury these in their basements to avoid raising unconfortable questions. A large portion of the pieces is scattered around the world and in secret private collections.

Klaus Dona has been able to gather more than 1700 pieces, all of which have no logical explanation! The exhibition was a big success in Vienna, after which it travelled to Berlin, Seoul, and Switzerland. Being physical pieces, they are irrefutable evidence and difficult to reject. All through his search for unexplained archeological artifacts the answer has always been: we are not alone, more so, we've never been.

Mr. Dona will bring, for the first time, some of the pieces pictured underneath, and will explain what is actually known about them, why they don't fit in the current scientific paradigms, and what implications their existence have on our history as Humanity.

www.unsolved-mysteries.info



















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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:50 pm

and if you want the dvd go to this link:..same pic as above btw..must be official type photo

http://shop.1asecure.com/prod.cfm?ProdID=370405&StID=5503

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Klaus Dona has been the Art Exhibition Curator for the Habsburg Haus of Austria since 1991. Mr. Dona has organized 30 cultural exhibitions in Austria, Japan and Korea. Being a specialist in culture and art exhibitions, his attention was automatically drawn to a phenomenon called 'Ooparts' - out of place artifacts. These are artifacts that should not exist according to current science. Klaus Dona has been researching these types of artifacts for over a decade and, after a long preparation, decided to set up an exhibition of 470 of these (Ooparts) pieces, which he called 'Unsolved Mysteries'. He has artifacts from places such as Roswell, New Mexico; a still intact chupacabras skeleton; as well as giants (Nephilim) bones. He has been able to display such artifacts - a feat no one had been able to achieve since museums bury these in their basements to avoid raising unconfortable questions. A large portion of the pieces are scattered around the world and held in secret private collections. Klaus Dona has been able to gather more than 2500 pieces, all of which have no logical explanation!

Presentation: His Ooparts exhibition was a big success in Vienna, after which it travelled to Berlin, Seoul, and Switzerland. Being physical pieces, they are irrefutable evidence and difficult to reject. All through his search for unexplained archeological artifacts the answer has always been: we are not alone, more so, we've never been. Mr. Dona will show 200 photos of artifacts in his possession, and will explain what is actually known about them, why they don't fit in the current scientific paradigms, and what implications their existence have on our history as Humanity. After listening to his speech and watching his photographic evidence you will be left with many questions like: who we are, where we came from and where do we go, did giants really exist, was the flood a reality and when, was there once a global civilization and most of all, can we learn from the past, especially coming to 2012 and the prophecies? Main website: www.unsolved-mysteries.info

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:43 pm

i came across this C2C interview with Steve Quayle GIANTS 12-3-08

In the second half of the interview, he talked about his latest research into giants (see accompanying image). Quayle alleged that shadowy elements of the government are keeping giants in suspended animation at secret labs in order to study their genetics. According to his sources, the body temperature of the giants "runs around 120 to 130 degrees" and that "these guys can go 40 miles per hour in two steps."

Quayle was later joined by an anonymous pilot who claimed to have transported a dead giant, shot by the military, while stationed in Afghanistan. He estimated that the creature was "12 feet tall, give or take" and "around 1,100 pounds." The pilot noted that the being had six fingers on each hand and its feet were adorned with "rudimentary shoes" made of canvas. According to what his superiors told him, the giant body was eventually "transloaded back to a base in Ohio."

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:59 pm

@sky...

What's up with that pyramid stone from Equador? It has 13 steps... and the eye on top. Exactly the same as the masonic US 1 dollar bill !

The pic of the skull with hair still on it is affraid !! Kinda makes it for real.



@day..

I follow Steve Quayle's website all of the time. His number one thing is investigating the giants.

:fire: Now I have some catchin up to read!
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:10 pm

nerd I am listening to C2C now and going wow...wow.... and wow... lol

Mic....its pretty wild

According to Steve Quayle these giants in Afghanistan have six fingers and toes...in the book of Enoch it says they have six fingers and toes cowboy

this one is especially good


btw here is Steve's website http://www.stevequayle.com/... I get a really good feeling from him...do you ?

mic...when you go to his website and click on the picture of the giant ... you will find links to things we have been talking about

quote from his website

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Stretch your mind back to childhood. What giants do you remember? Jack and the Beanstalk? Hercules? Paul Bunyan? Goliath? What were you told and what did you read? With the exception of Goliath and an occasional ornery cyclops, legends emphasized their innate goodness, eye-popping feats accomplished with unparalleled strength, victories over the bad guys and all performed by "gentle giants". What if it were all a lie? What if the truth were something much MUCH more sinister?

I have invested over 30 years researching the vast history of giants. It has, for the most part, been kept from the public. Proof of giants' existence - their skeletal remains - has been quickly secreted away in obscure museums, when not destroyed. Additionally, time has cloaked and sugar-coated these creatures' true perverse nature, the majority too vile, too demonic for bedtime stories. However, history is replete with their tales of unimaginable cruelty, sexual perversity, cannibalism and pagan rituals. This is only the beginning. Some things are best forgotten. . . or are they?

Where did these giants come from and what was their connection with ordinary humans? Just who were they? What happened to these extraordinary creatures? Is it possible they could ever return? The last question I will answer right now - YES, they most definitely could return! And they have something much worse in mind for mankind.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:11 pm

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if you get a chance the vid was excellent..but again no new stuff...
here is the info from... http://www.unsolved-mysteries.info/english/retro/e02_01_frame.htm
about the pryamid

From the same place (La Mana, Ecuador) a strange, pyramid-like stone with a “divine eye” in the uppermost part, which phosphoresces in the dark under ultraviolet light. A whole special section of the exhibition (CHAMBER OF LIGHTS) showed more objects from La Mana with this characteristic attribute.

and the skulls ..uck

but lots to look at here
http://www.unsolved-mysteries.info/rundgang2eng/rg2eng.htm

my eyes are crossing so maybe some sleep...good reading
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:56 pm

mic.... if you go to his website all the time then you should not be surprised then that these giants are known for their evil not for being peaceful....where did you get the idea they were peaceful? I would like to see the website.sunny

Steve Quayle has also used the book of Enoch ... and the book of Giants from the Dead Sea Scrolls these are the same books most people use, but where i first learned of the giants oh ...quite a few years ago.

..its going to take some more digging though to find the connection to the middle earth
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:20 pm

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mic.... if you go to his website all the time then you should not be surprised then that these giants are known for their evil not for being peaceful....where did you get the idea they were peaceful? I would like to see the website.sunny

Steve Quayle has also used the book of Enoch ... and the book of Giants from the Dead Sea Scrolls these are the same books most people use, but where i first learned of the giants oh ...quite a few years ago.

..its going to take some more digging though to find the connection to the middle earth

Oh, not the giants that Steve talks about.

It is the 3 or 4 stories I've read about people that have entered the hollow earth, through the poles. Admiral Byrd, Olaf Jannsen, et al. The couple of stories on the first page of this thread.

They speak of the people that live there as giants living in harmony with nature. Living in abundance not luxury.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:26 pm

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They speak of the people that live there as giants living in harmony with nature. Living in abundance not luxury.

thank you for clearing that up nerd ... ok .. i will go through those stories again... there has got to be something more too about the peace full people who live in the hollow earth...

you know...we'll find them .. i dont know why but ... i just feel we will sunny

ok back at it ...lol... drive
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