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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:33 am

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i know/feel/intuit there is a hollow place with a civilization but i have no proof
the following is just some thing to think about..not sayin it is correct





Sharula Dux is a princess from the subterranean city of Telos situated beneath Mt. Shasta which is populated by the remnants of the Lemurian civilization. Listen to her describe the city in detail. More on Telos and the hollow earth at www.diannerobbins.com and http


Secrets of the Subterranean Cities
by Sharula Dux


http://www.diannerobbins.com/dux1.html

ATLANTEAN-LEMURIAN WARS
TELOS & SUBTERRANEAN CITIES
EARTHQUAKES & DESTRUCTION
SURFACE CIVILIZATIONS
AGHARTA NETWORK
MT. SHASTA

http://www.diannerobbins.com/dux2.html

NATURE LEVELS
DIET & GARDENING
TEMPLE
ARCHIVES & HOLODECK
COMMUNICATIONS & CHRIST-CONSCIOUSNESS COMPUTING
TRANSPORTATION
GALACTIC CONFEDERATION

http://www.diannerobbins.com/dux3.html

LIGHT & AIR
GOVERNMENT & ARBITRATION
MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD
CONCEPTION
BIRTH
YOUTH & EDUCATION

http://www.diannerobbins.com/dux4.html

ASTRAL PROJECTION
TEENAGE GROUP
IMMORTALITY
CAREERS & BARTER SYSTEM
COMMUNITY SERVICE
MARRIAGE

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http://diannerobbins.com/blog/2009/04/weekly-message-from-mikos-in-hollow.html

Inner Earth Blog
Channeled messages from the:
Hollow Earth, Telos, Cetaceans, and Tree Kingdom.

From the Sacred Mountain of Mt. Shasta,
to the very core of the Earth comes the
messages for humankind... We Are Not Alone!
~ Dianne Robbins

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:44 am

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http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/hollow/morrow.htm

Turning the Universe Inside-Out.
Ulysses Grant Morrow's Naples Experiment.
by Donald E. Simanek
When the Royal Society asked Halley to explain the exceptional auroral display of 1692, Halley wrote that it was caused by light from inside the Earth. Newon's demonstration of the oblateness of the Earth led Halley to suppose the Earth's outer shell was thinner at the poles, allowing inner light to diffuse out, then scatter from the atmosphere, causing auroral displays.


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well the music is???? but more to think about

http://www.bouncepage.com/Pellucidar/hollow.html
Hollow Earth

A listing of theories, fiction, essays on Pellucidar sources, and internet links

An earlier version of this listing was published in the National Capital Panthans Journal #56, June 2001. It was reprinted in the book, The Gilak's Guide to Pellucidar in 2007.

Last updated 09-08-09

the links part has this list..Internet Links

The Hollow Earth Insider: Dennis Crenshaw’s Homepage

John Symmes’ writings can be read at Oliver’s Bookshelf.

What Curiosity in the Structure: The Hollow Earth in Science by Duane Griffin is a forty-three page academic article.

The Skeptic’s Dictionary

Mundus Subterraneus is a hollow Earth blog by author Theo Paijmans.

The Hollow Earth Theory

The Hollow Earth – Fact or Fiction

OurHollowEarth.com has articles, an online copy of The Smoky God, pictures, and drawings.

The Hollow Earth includes a brief history of hollow Earth theory.

An article on the theory of Marshall B. Gardner from the Chicago Daily Tribune August 3, 1913 is reprinted in ERBzine #1446.

An article dated 11/19/03 on the hollow Earth from PRAVDA, an on-line magazine
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:56 am

thanks sky very interesting articles and links sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:15 am

Indeed . That should keep me busy for a while.

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:00 pm

I was going through the links that Sky posted and was drawn to this -

1878 - Symmes' Theory of Concentric Spheres by James McBride

I kept thinking how familiar it sounded and remembered a couple of things that was pertinent to Symmes' theory of Concentric Spheres.

when I was in university I came across a short article, which I dont have anymore about some of the things that were being excavated in Greece. It had to do with a belief of the many concentric circles of man, such as emotions, intellect, physical, spiritual, family, prosperity etc were seen as a series of concentric spheres, each sphere holding its own vitality and balanced with all the rest of the inter related sphere.

this was very old and I recall that it dated from the Roman era

the second and most intriguingly is a book I read about fluid mechanics called " A History and Philosophy of Fluid Mechanics by G. A Tokaty.


Tokaty includes a theory put forth by Aristotle that the surface of water is spherical. The book included a listing of some of Archimedes works and is honored as the founder of Mechanics and Fluid Mechanics.

This is the area of research I believe and those early great thinkers who birthed Mathematics and conceptual thought to represent these laws of Creation which also bear the reality of a hollow earth.

Archimedes was perhaps the first to examine the internal nature of water - something that would lay relevant to the inner earth as its openings lie within the oceans. Further this thought to the auroras shown coming from this openings and it reminds me of a cathode.

the breakdown of water is h2o - 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen and with a spark of electricity we have water....

its this unique nature of the opening of the hole to the inner earth I am thinking about - its periodic visibility or is it always visible? these are questions we dont have the answers to -

but just like Tom Beardons work
Tom Bearden and several associates have been doing some interesting work with 'over-unity' applications. They have replaced the term "Vacuum Energy" with their own expression - "Radiant Energy."

He found a whole new set of laws for electricity
http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/
pt 2
http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/Disc2.htm



and ...somehow I feel its very related ;)

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:27 pm

According to the Sirians we do have a very advanced race of beings inside our planet and have been here for a long time. I can't remember their name right now?

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:26 am

Gabriel wrote:
According to the Sirians we do have a very advanced race of beings inside our planet and have been here for a long time. I can't remember their name right now?

great thread

if you come across the name and anymore info Gabe would love to hear about it here on the thread sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:07 pm

I took some pictures from the short video
http://www.nasa.gov/mov/133778main_FUV_640x480.mov

id like to find out what the name of that area is in Antartica.. I know there are regions there that are 'offlimits'
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:55 pm

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A brief history of the exploration of Antarctica

350 B.C.
It was the ancient Greeks who first came up with the idea of Antarctica. They knew about the Arctic - named Arktos - The Bear, from the constellation the great bear and decided that in order to balance the world, there should be a similar cold Southern landmass that was the same but the opposite "Ant - Arktos" - opposite The Bear. They never actually went there, it was just a lucky guess!

1773
In January, James Cook crosses the Antarctic circle and circumnavigates Antarctica, though he doesn't sight land, deposits of rock seen in icebergs showed that a southern continent exists. His comment - "I make bold to declare that the world will derive no benefit from it".

1819 - 21
Captain Thaddeus Bellingshausen a Russian naval officer in the Vostok and Mirny circumnavigates the Antarctic, first to cross the Antarctic circle since Cook.

He made the first sighting of the continent, reaching 69° 21'S, 2° 14'W - describing an "icefield covered with small hillocks." on Jan 27th 1820.

For some considerable time, exactly who and when first set eyes on Antarctica were in dispute as British naval officers, William Smith and Edward Bransfield also saw Antarctica on Jan 30th the same year - followed by American sealer Nathaniel Palmer on Nov 16th.

This was the first time a continent had truly been "discovered" (i.e. there weren't any native peoples living there who'd known about it for ages already). All sightings are of the Antarctic Peninsula.

1821
February the 7th. 1st known landing on continental Antarctica by American sealer Captain John Davis, though this is not acknowledged by all historians.

In the winter of 1821, for the first time ever a party of men spent a winter in Antarctica. An officer and ten men from a British sealing ship the Lord Melville had to spend the winter on King George Island - part of the South Shetlands group, north of the Antarctic Peninsula. The ship had been driven offshore and did not return to pick them up again. They were rescued the following summer.

1823
British whaler James Weddell discovers the sea named after him and then reaches the most southerly point at that time 74° 15' S. No one else manages to penetrate the Weddell sea again for 80 years.

1840's
Separate British, French and American expeditions establish the status of Antarctica as a continent after sailing along continuous coastline.

In 1840, British naval officer and scientist James Clark Ross takes two ships, the Erebus and the Terror, to within 80 miles of the coast until stopped by a massive ice barrier - now called the Ross Ice Shelf. He also discovers the active volcano that he names after his ship Erebus, and identifies 145 new species of fish (not personally you understand - a scientist on the ship did that bit).

Late 1800's to early 20th century. Many expeditions largely by sealers and whalers to all parts of Antarctica. Mainly marine exploration and exploration of the sub Antarctic islands.


1898
March. Adrien de Gerlache and the crew of the "Belgica" become trapped in pack ice off the Antarctic Peninsula in the first scientific expedition to the continent. They become the first to survive an Antarctic winter (involuntarily!) as their ship drifts with the ice (they didn't enjoy it).


1899
Carsten Borchgrevink leads a British expedition that landed men at Cape Adare and built huts. This was the first time that anyone had wintered on the Antarctic landmass. Believed by some historians to be the first confirmed landing on continental Antarctica.

1902
Captain Scott, UK, leads his first Antarctic expedition to reach the South Pole, with Ernest Shackleton and Edward Wilson. They are forced to turn back two months later having reached 82 degrees south, suffering from snow blindness and scurvy.

Several other publicly and privately sponsored expeditions around this time. By now, these are driven by science, geography and exploration - less by the exploitation of resources such as seals and whales.


1907 - 1909
Shackleton leads expedition to within 156km / 97mls of the South Pole, turns back after supplies are exhausted.

1909
January, Australian Douglas Mawson reaches the South Magnetic Pole.

1911
December 14th. Norwegian Roald Amundsen leads a five man expedition that reaches the South Pole for the first time.

1912
January 18th. Britain's Captain Robert Falcon Scott reaches the South Pole to discover he has been beaten by Amundsen. All of the five man team (Scott, Bowers, Evans, Oates and Wilson), are to perish on the return journey only 11 miles from supply depot. Bodies are not discovered until November.

December. Douglas Mawson begins his trek across George V Land back to his base at Commonwealth Bay. His two companions had died, and against the odds he makes it home. A new section of coast is discovered and described, and radio is used for the first time in Antarctica.

1915
October. Shackleton returns to Antarctica in an attempt to complete the first crossing of the continent. The goal is not attained, but one of the greatest adventures of all time follows. Their ship is crushed in the sea ice and a small party sets out for South Georgia and the whaling station. The party is eventually rescued in 1917.

1923.
The beginning of large-scale factory ship whaling in the Ross Sea.

1928
Australian Sir George Wilkins and American Carl Benjamin Eielson are the first to fly over Antarctica around the peninsula region.

1929
Richard E. Byrd and three others - US - become the first to fly over the South Pole.

1935
Lincoln Ellsworth - US - flies across the continent.

Caroline Mikkelsen, Norway, is the first woman to set foot on Antarctica when she accompanies her husband, a whaling captain.

1947
Operation Highjump - US - sends the largest ever expedition of over 4700 men, 13 ships and 23 airplanes to Antarctica. Most of the coast is photographed for map making.

1956
US aircraft lands at South Pole. First people there since Scott and his team in 1912.

1st July 1957 - 31st Dec 1958
International Geophysical Year (IGY) 12 nations establish over 60 stations in Antarctica. The beginning of international cooperation in Antarctica and the start of the process by which Antarctica becomes "non-national".

The first successful land crossing via the South Pole is led by British geologist Vivian Fuchs with New Zealander Edmund Hillary leading the back up party, over 40 years after Shackleton's expedition set out with the same aim.

1961
Antarctic treaty comes into effect.

1997
Boerge Ousland (Norway) becomes first person to cross Antarctica unsupported. Taking 64 days from Berkner Island to Scott base towing a 180kg (400lb) sled and using skis and a sail.

March 2007 - March 2009
International Polar Year - Actually Spans two years in order that researchers get the opportunity to work in both polar regions or work summer and winter if they wish.

http://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica%20fact%20file/History/exploration%20and%20history.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:10 pm

and some wierd stuff.. lol! ..maybe scratch


The OMEGA File
NAZI BASES IN ANTARCTICA

We will now examine the various claims of Nazi bases in Antarctica, which
as we have said, may very well have been the point-of-origin of the
'Nazi-Grey' craft that Barney and Betty Hill encountered during their
abduction experience.

The historical facts are evident. Beginning in 1838, long before the end of
the Second World War, the Nazi's commenced to send out numerous exploratory
missions to the Queen Maud region of Antarctica. A steady stream of
expeditions were reportedly sent out from [at the time] white supremacist
South Africa. Over 230,000 square miles of the frozen continent were mapped
from the air, and the Germans discovered vast regions that were
surprisingly free of ice, as well as warm water lakes and cave inlets. One
vast ice cave within the glacier was reportedly found to extend 30 miles to
a large hot-water geothermal lake deep below. Various scientific teams were
moved in to the area, including hunters, trappers, collectors and
zoologists, botanists, agriculturists, plant specialists, mycologists,
parasitologists, marine biologists, ornithologists, and many others.
Numerous divisions of the German government were involved in the top secret
project.

This is where the mainstream historians leave off, as only revisionist
historians will dare consider the implications of the rest of the story...

continue here: http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Branton_The_Omega_File_Part_2_Nazi_Bases_In_Antarctica.html

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This map uses an orthographic projection, near-polaraspect. The South Pole is near the center, where longitudinal lines converge


The first formal use of the name "Antarctica" as a continental name in the 1890s is attributed to the Scottish cartographer John George Bartholomew. The name Antarctica is the romanized version of the Greek compound word ανταρκτική (antarktiké), feminine of ανταρκτικός (antarktikos),[4] meaning "opposite to the north".[5]

The Antarctic Treaty was signed in 1959 by twelve countries; to date, forty-six countries have signed the treaty. The treaty prohibits military activities and mineral mining, supports scientific research, and protects the continent's ecozone. Ongoing experiments are conducted by more than 4,000 scientists of many nationalities and with different research interests.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica


A satellite composite image of Antarctica


Antarctic territories

Main article: Antarctic territorial claims
Date Country Territory Claim limits
1908 United Kingdom British Antarctic Territory 20°W to 80°W
1923 New Zealand Ross Dependency 150°W to 160°E
1924 France Adélie Land 142°2'E to 136°11'E
1929 Norway Peter I Island 68°50′S 90°35′W / 68.833°S 90.583°W / -68.833; -90.583 (Peter I Island)
1933 Australia Australian Antarctic Territory 160°E to 142°2'E and
136°11'E to 44°38'E
1939 Norway Queen Maud Land 44°38'E to 20°W
1940 Chile Antártica 53°W to 90°W
1943 Argentina Argentine Antarctica 25°W to 74°W
— None Unclaimed territory
(Marie Byrd Land) 90°W to 150°W
(except the Peter I Island)
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:16 pm

The people living on the inside of the Earth are known as being the descendants from the first age of Atlantis, the survivors from the destruction of that world. They went underground to escape the changes and stayed there and built a thriving system known to the Sirians as the world of Agharta. This place has a cultural center called Shambhala. This place is known by the well studied Buddhists, and Tibetan Lamas. And many of these mystics have travelled there in their light bodies while in meditation sessions.

These spiritual people are known as the White Brotherhood. Through the years the White Brotherhood would come to the surface to communicate with the mystic leaders of Lemuria, Tibetans, the Maya, Ancient Egyptians, the Druids, and the Etruscans. The White Brotherhood would bring knowledge to these groups that would help them to help themselves and help our life giving planet mother to become balanced together.

They are called super beings by the Sirians as they are so enlightened.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:32 pm

wonderful wonderful great info sky!!

will enjoy going through it all

so glad you post links to sources sunny

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:34 pm

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The people living on the inside of the Earth are known as being the descendants from the first age of Atlantis, the survivors from the destruction of that world. They went underground to escape the changes and stayed there and built a thriving system known to the Sirians as the world of Agharta. This place has a cultural center called Shambhala. This place is known by the well studied Buddhists, and Tibetan Lamas. And many of these mystics have travelled there in their light bodies while in meditation sessions.

These spiritual people are known as the White Brotherhood. Through the years the White Brotherhood would come to the surface to communicate with the mystic leaders of Lemuria, Tibetans, the Maya, Ancient Egyptians, the Druids, and the Etruscans. The White Brotherhood would bring knowledge to these groups that would help them to help themselves and help our life giving planet mother to become balanced together.

They are called super beings by the Sirians as they are so enlightened.

this is interesting Gabe thank you so much for elaborating

are you familiar with lobsang rampa? he wrote about this too
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:38 pm

No I am not familiar with lobsang, but I have read of the name in passing somewhere? I think he was a mystic??
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:17 pm

Hi Gabe - His full name was Tuesday Lobsang Rampa.

I loved reading his books and I believed every word he wrote. He has passed on now.

This is from the website http://www.lobsangrampa.net/
Lobsang Rampa was a buddhist monk and a medical Doctor, who was born in Tibet. After many tribulations and much travelling he eventually settled in Canada near the end of his life and so experienced life in both the east and the west. Dr. Rampa was a revolutionary of his time, one of the first of the Eastern teachers to bring buddhism and metaphysics to the West in a popular fashion. He wrote many books about spiritual matters, beginning with "The Third Eye".

many of his books are free to download on this website

I read all of his books that I could get a hold of back then. It was about 20 years ago

here is the link to the free download of his books
http://www.lobsangrampa.net/lobsang_rampa.html


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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:22 pm

Thank you I will go get the downloads for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:24 pm

day wrote:
I took some pictures from the short video
http://www.nasa.gov/mov/133778main_FUV_640x480.mov

id like to find out what the name of that area is in Antartica.. I know there are regions there that are 'offlimits'


If you go to google earth and look up the area which shows the light coming out of the hole.....Nasa is definately hiding something in this area. This is how I know......


It shows the outline of the coast of Antartica in yellow. Once you zoom in close enough to find this....look at what they are "showing us" in this area....ice breaking away as it is ocean. This can't be both ocean and mainland. My guess is mainland and they have inserted pics of water to hide the truth.


Check it out.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:05 pm

sunny

so glad you post links to sources

Day

it's my personal belief that if they aren't your words you need to say so
and where you read/heard them

and this is one of those subjects that i have looked into before
what really fascinates me is that it has been around for sooo long
and some times folks act like it has just arrived.. lol!

you need to see where the earlier folk made points so you can
make a call on which of the later folks just mouthed info
or who used it to find more

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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:55 pm

hi sky - agreed!

Giving credit to those that wrote the article or made the video etc should come first to us all but sadly on many forums this does not happen - there are concerns about plagiarism and right so due to lack of respect given to authors. Its an ongoing battle for many with no end in sight.

giving the credit due to those who put out the time and effort to share their knowledge with us is more than just an act of integrity, its also respect and honor!

its nice to be on a forum that does that
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:57 pm

micjer wrote:
day wrote:
I took some pictures from the short video
http://www.nasa.gov/mov/133778main_FUV_640x480.mov

id like to find out what the name of that area is in Antartica.. I know there are regions there that are 'offlimits'


If you go to google earth and look up the area which shows the light coming out of the hole.....Nasa is definately hiding something in this area. This is how I know......


It shows the outline of the coast of Antartica in yellow. Once you zoom in close enough to find this....look at what they are "showing us" in this area....ice breaking away as it is ocean. This can't be both ocean and mainland. My guess is mainland and they have inserted pics of water to hide the truth.


Check it out.

thanks Micjer
I know you have researched this deeply.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:29 pm

Hollow Planet Seismology Vs Solid Earth Seismology

By Jan Lamprecht

Hollow Planets Theory
Let me show you how my Hollow Planet seismic model can explain the Earth's seismology better than the existing solid Earth seismic model - and yet not one person at any university has shown the slightest interest in this.

The purpose of this page is to demonstrate a number of most amazing things about seismology to the Reader in the clearest and simplest manner possible. When I wrote my book I did delve into the many deeper and more technical aspects but I want to put that aside for now.

The purpose of this exercise is to show people visually a number of very important things which you will not find in any book on earth. (Note: This material lends itself to a TV/documentary presentation and I have tried unsuccessfully for the last 2 1/2 years to get someone to take some of my material and show it on TV because I believe it will blow people's minds). The solid Earth model is divided into three major segments (we will ignore the smaller ones as they do not affect the bigger picture). Those segments are (from the centre) : the Inner Core, the Outer Core and the Mantle.

Lesson #1: The Earth is NOT a ball of molten lava. The first question everyone asks me when they hear of the Hollow Planet idea is: "Where does lava come from then?" The (completely FALSE) impression schools have created in everyone's minds is that the Earth is this red-hot ball of lava. They then imagine that lava from volcanoes comes from the centre of the Earth. Ask any geologist or seismologist if this is true and you will discover they disagree. Standard geology and seismology texts tell a different story. Scientists know that most lava is slightly radioactive and they believe it is produced either by decaying radium (decayed uranium) or through stresses in the crust. Lava is created by heat generated within the crust of the Earth. The crust is said to be no more than 20 miles thick, although to be honest nobody has ever actually penetrated the crust so we really do not know what (if anything different) lies beneath it. Scientists will tell you that lava is a crustal phenomenon and all lava comes from no deeper than 20 miles down.

If the Earth were an "ocean of molten lava" then it would actually be subject to tidal pressures and the continents would be broken to pieces as the earth rotated. Scientists say the Earth is actually composed of solid rock for the most part. As you go deeper, the pressures are supposed to be so great that the rock actually flows from extreme pressure. (As you will see, even this may not be really true). But nowhere in modern geology or seismology will you see them saying the Earth is a ball of molten lava.

In fact, the final proof comes from seismology itself. When an earthquake occurs, seismic waves travel out in all directions throughout all the earth. There are two types of seismic waves: P and S. Based on this, scientists know that all of the earth is actually quite RIGID and composed only of rock. The only partial exception is the Outer core. Take a look the seismic diagram below. If the earth were truly molten, then seismic waves would be considerably dampened down. So the fact that seismic waves can travel through and around the earth shows that it is mostly completely rigid and solid.


In the above seismic diagram (from a text book on seismology), D=Mantle, E=Outer core, G=Inner core.

Lesson #2: Traditional Hollow Earth ideas fail the "seismology test". Let me show you why scientists simply laugh at the idea of a Hollow Planet. Keep in mind that all Hollow Earthers have, for more than a century, been saying that the Earth's crust is 800-1000 miles thick. Note in the above diagram, that seismic waves travel from the source of an earthquake (on the left) through the Earth at various angles and therefore reach the other side (this is not true of all seismic waves, but of the main ones, referred to as "P" waves). If you were to propose that a planet only has a crust of 1,000 miles or less, then this is why a scientist would laugh at you. See the image below.


In the above diagram you can see the seismic ray paths (red lines) moving away from an earthquake source. Note how the huge cavity in this "traditional" hollow earth model would block out all the "P" waves from reaching the other side of the Earth. So clearly, this type of approach does not fit the known scientific facts and so we must discard it.

Lesson #3: Is there any Hollow Earth seismic model which allows waves to go around the Earth? The obvious problem posed by the theory is that seismic waves actually reach right across to the other side of the Earth. Scientists are therefore quite confident that the P waves must have passed through the core of the Earth and this tells them that there cannot be a cavity.

When I did my feasibility study (which is what my book is), I looked at the problem from every conceivable angle to see if there was any Hollow Earth model which made seismic sense. I found only one - I repeat - only one, which has any merits. All other Hollow Earth seismic models are failures. Take a look at it below.


In the above model, I simply used the Earth's structure as scientists define it now. I replaced the Outer core with a cavity (I'll explain why later - because there is a sound reason for it). But the thing I changed was the structure of the Mantle. I wondered what would happen if density within a sphere did not increase uniformly as has been assumed. What if density actually DECREASES from a certain point onwards? You will notice all solid-earth seismology shows ray paths curving in a "U" back to the surface of the Earth. That is because density and pressure increases as you go deeper. But if, for some reason, density were to suddenly decrease, then the waves would curve in the opposite direction! I realised this, and you can see what then happens. In the middle of the Mantle, where density suddenly decreases, it causes seismic waves to travel around the cavity - right to the other side of the Earth!

You would be excused for believing that the waves might have passed through the core of the Earth when in fact nothing of the kind happened.

Lesson #4: The Mystery of the "Shadow Zone." The next problem in global seismology is explaining the mysterious "Shadow Zone". There is a lack of P waves between 103o-144o from the epicentre of a quake. Take a look at the problem as seen from a university-level text-book on seismology.



Note how the P waves strike the Outer core and scientists believe the refraction caused by this sudden change in density can explain the shadow. But notice, in this university-level text book how they are befuddled because there are still some waves which reach the shadow zone (dotted line). They are at a complete loss to explain this. Now let me explain to you how perfectly my Hollow Earth model solves this problem. Take a look at the image below.


After changing some parameters in my Hollow Planet seismic model, I have a "Shadow Zone" which matches the facts exactly! I made the cavity smaller, and I moved the "point of maximum density" (the dark circle in the Mantle) somewhat lower. Note: The Green area near the surface is the "Shadow Zone". Now look at the amazing thing that happens. We have P waves behaving as normal right up to 103o. Then suddenly there are very few of them inside the Shadow Zone and then after the Shadow Zone we are a greater and greater number of ray paths eventually converging on the other side of the Earth! This is exactly consistent with the known facts of global seismology!

Sometimes small things can make a huge difference. It is obvious from the Hollow Planet diagram why there would be a Shadow Zone. This is caused by the gradual change from "increasing density" to "decreasing density." This causes the waves to "split" - some to go down while others go up. So there has to then be an area on the surface which receives less seismic waves than normal - hence the "Shadow Zone." A really crucial point is that the "Shadow Zone" is not completely devoid of waves. In the Hollow Planet model you can see why - it makes perfect sense. In the solid earth model you can see they have to stretch their imaginations (dotted lines) in order to try to find some explanation. In their diagram they believe the Shadow is cased by sharp refraction - but clearly that explanation does not quite fit the facts.

Lesson #5: Proving, that the Outer and Inner cores - do not exist at all. You have been wondering why I removed the Outer Core altogether from my Hollow Planet seismic model. The answer is simple. There are two kinds of seismic waves - P waves - which are much like sound waves. They are pressure waves caused by a direct "push" through the matter. But then there are S waves - shear waves - which are like taking a piece of hose-pipe and moving it up and down rapidly. P waves can travel through everything except a vaccuum (although if they travelled through air they would be considerably weaker than when they travelled through rock or a liquid). S waves however, can only be transmitted through rigid materials - like rock. It has long been known to scientists that unlike P waves which can travel around the world - S waves are in fact "blocked" by something. They named this "something" the Outer core. They decided the Outer core had to be non-rigid. If the Outer core were a type of "liquid" then P waves could pass through it, but S waves could not. Hence they "invented" the Outer core. Very early on, when I became interested in the Hollow Earth idea, I realised this property of the Outer core, and I wondered if the Outer core was really a liquid, or if it was, in reality a cavity. My big problem however was figuring out how P waves behaved.

Now let me show you that the Outer core does not exist at all, while the Inner core is merely the part of the Earth in the immediate vicinity of the cavity!

Here we have a standard solid-Earth seismic model.

The waves we are interested in are those which passed throuh the core - the PKP and PKIKP waves. When one takes a look at the data showing the speed with which seismic waves travel, one discovers an interesting thing: Waves which pass through the core (those which are supposed to be going in a straight line) actually slow down! What makes this even more curious is that P waves are supposed to speed up when they pass through dense material. And there is no place on this planet which is as dense as the Inner core! So why do P waves then slow down? According to the formula for the transmission of sound/pressure waves - speed is affected by two factors: (a) Density (b) Elasticity. This gives scientists a way of getting out of the problem by saying: "If the Density has increased, but the wave has slowed down, it must THEREFORE mean that the Elasticity increased."

Let us return to my Hollow Planet seismic model.

Take a look at the ray paths of the waves which reached the other side of the Earth, beyond the Shadow Zones. Look at the paths they travelled. (a) They did not travel through the core - they took a longer path around the cavity/core. (b) They were the waves which travelled near the cavity - hence near the area of lowest density! Both those factors would cause the waves to take a longer time to travel to the other side of the Earth, hence, giving the appearance that they slowed down, while apparently travelling in a more-or-less straight line!! There, once more, we find a perfect match between my Hollow Planets Seismic model and what we know about global seismology. As you can see, this explanation accounts for everything observed and yet there is no need for either an Outer or Inner core.

Lesson #6: Amazing Seismic Speed Revelations - proving the Earth is homogenous. Seismologists often produce diagrams such as the one below which show the speed of seismic waves inside the Earth at various depths.


You will notice, at various depths, such as at the 5,000 Km level, the speed of waves changing very sharply - either speeding up or slowing down. Scientists look at these sharp changes in speed and then state that this is due to sharp changes in density. They use this to "prove" that the Mantle is composed of a different type of material to the Outer core and so forth. You have seen the Hollow Planets seismic model and how radically a seismic ray's path may differ from the solid Earth model. Supposing the Earth really is hollow, it would then follow that the paths of waves differ in reality from what scientific theory supposes. That being the case, scientists may suppose a certain ray speeds up or slows down when in fact it does nothing of the kind. If they knew the right path (like the rays going through the core for example), then it might turn out that such rapid speed changes never actually occur.

However, since scientists are obsessed with the need to have a model which matches the 6 trillion tons needed (according to their gravity experiments), they need to find a way of "packing lots of matter into the Earth". So they are looking for evidence of changes in density. I'm sure that when they find they have to account for certain behaviour by postulating such instantaneous increases/decreases in speed that it makes them confident they are on the right track. But the opposite may be true. It is entirely possible that if one knew the exact paths of the rays that one would find the speed of seismic waves would not vary that much.

This is a most important point. It would mean that my Hollow Planet seismic model is internally consistent. In other words, it postulates that the Earth is homogenous, and a resultant analysis of seismic wave speeds along the paths postulated should then prove that indeed the Earth is homogenous. This would be a further proof that my model is the right one and not the solid earth model.

Lesson #7: Deep Quakes may disprove the Solid Earth model. According to scientists, pressure increases with depth. According to their calculations the pressure is so great that between 70-150 Km down, all rock will begin to flow. Below 150 Km there is no known material which will not flow. Therefore, according to scientists, there can be no earthquakes with epicentres deeper than 150 Km - because it is IMPOSSIBLE!

But there are! Tens of thousands of Earthquakes have epicentres deeper than 150 Km. The histogram below shows some curious things.

It shows that earthquakes occur right up to a depth of 300 Km down. The picture is somewhat consistent with science's expectations because there are less quakes with depth (though they do not stop at 150 Km as expected). Then a most curious thing happens, they increase in number up to a depth of 700 Km where they end. Scientists try to explain these quakes by invoking various possible strange properties of matter. Although each theory advanced so far has had problems with it.

What no scientist on Earth is willing to accept is that maybe gravity does not behave the way they believe it does! That histogram may be the proof that gravity does not behave as is expected at depth. Why can't scientists look at that histogram and see it for what it might be telling us? That histogram may be "stating" quite clearly that the Earth does not have those pressures inside and that it remains relatively cool down to incredible depths? Maybe that diagram is "telling us" that gravity does not behave at depths the way we are expecting. If that is so, then everything we think we know about the mass of the Earth may be wrong.

Note, gravity is a very weak force and even a bit of static electricity could produce an attraction far in excess of anything gravity could produce - but with a fraction of the mass. If that is the case, you don't need to worry about the Earth having to have a mass of 6 trillion tons. It may weigh considerably less.

As final note, it may be that there are quakes deeper than 700 Km but they are so far away, and maybe the effects of gravity are so weak that they do not have enough force for us to detect them. Let me point out that seismologists have indeed speculated about the possible existence of "Silent Earthquakes" which are remain undetected by our equipment.

Occam's Razor & the Hollow Planets model: When in doubt, the simplest model is probably right. There is "rule" in science known as Occam's razor. Occam's Razor is a little piece of logic which states: When choosing between two or more theories it is most likely that the simplest explanation is the correct one. You have now seen my simple "sandwich" Hollow Planet model, which assumes the Earth is largely homogenous in composition, and you have seen how this simple model can match and even better the achievements of the more complex and unwieldy solid-Earth model. Does this idea of mine not satisfy Occam's Razor much more than the solid-Earth theory does?

I received an e-mail one day from someone studying at an American university. He said to me that he had never met such a closed-minded group of people as the Professors at Universities! Well, I would tend to agree with him. My book was published in July 1999. I sent copies to universities and I placed my book on the desks of university lecturers and Professors. Not one of them spent so much as 10 minutes looking at my book. After leaving my book there for weeks I eventually just gave up. Now I don't bother trying to win academics over.

My book is subtitled "A Feasibility study of possible Hollow Worlds" - and that is what it was. I wrote it because I was certain I could actually contribute something, and I truly hoped some academics or scientists would take an honest look at it. I thought if anyone would appreciate some original lateral thinking, it would be them! How wrong I was! The seismic diagram was the most important thing in it. I wanted scientists to compare my theoretical model against theirs and to match the seismic data to it. I was convinced it was superior to the complex solid earth model. It seemed to me to be a similar situation to the many concentric orbits which were used to explain the orbits of planets until it was discovered that orbits were really eliptical. Too bad there aren't any open-minded people in universities anywhere who would take a bit of their time to take a look at my Hollow Planets Seismic model and to compare its seismic predictions with those of their solid Earth models. I'll bet they would be very surprised by the results.




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PostSubject: Re: Hollow Earth   Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:38 pm

day wrote:


1878 - Symmes' Theory of Concentric Spheres by James McBride

I kept thinking how familiar it sounded and remembered a couple of things that was pertinent to Symmes' theory of Concentric Spheres.

when I was in university I came across a short article, which I dont have anymore about some of the things that were being excavated in Greece. It had to do with a belief of the many concentric circles of man, such as emotions, intellect, physical, spiritual, family, prosperity etc were seen as a series of concentric spheres, each sphere holding its own vitality and balanced with all the rest of the inter related sphere.

this was very old and I recall that it dated from the Roman era

the second and most intriguingly is a book I read about fluid mechanics called " A History and Philosophy of Fluid Mechanics by G. A Tokaty.


Tokaty includes a theory put forth by Aristotle that the surface of water is spherical. The book included a listing of some of Archimedes works and is honored as the founder of Mechanics and Fluid Mechanics.

This is the area of research I believe and those early great thinkers who birthed Mathematics and conceptual thought to represent these laws of Creation which also bear the reality of a hollow earth.

Archimedes was perhaps the first to examine the internal nature of water - something that would lay relevant to the inner earth as its openings lie within the oceans. Further this thought to the auroras shown coming from this openings and it reminds me of a cathode.

the breakdown of water is h2o - 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen and with a spark of electricity we have water....

its this unique nature of the opening of the hole to the inner earth I am thinking about - its periodic visibility or is it always visible? these are questions we dont have the answers to -

but just like Tom Beardons work
Tom Bearden and several associates have been doing some interesting work with 'over-unity' applications. They have replaced the term "Vacuum Energy" with their own expression - "Radiant Energy."

He found a whole new set of laws for electricity
http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/
pt 2
http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/Disc2.htm



and ...somehow I feel its very related ;)

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I found this today-

Additional information: Sir Edmund Halley's theory of Concentric Spheres

Sir Edmund Halley was the first person to suggest that the Earth might be hollow. He did so on the basis of his studies of the Earth's magnetic field. This resulted in him proposing that the motion of the Earth's magnetic field was caused by three hollow rotating shells existing inside the Earth. Edmund Halley was convinced he had discovered something great and he even had his portrait painted showing him holding a drawing of the hollow shells which he thought made up the Earth. His theory has since become know as the Concentric Spheres theory. Nicholas Kollerstrom from the University College, London did a detailed study of Halley's ideas.

Interestingly enough the problem of the mysterious origin of the Earth's magnetic field is still under scientific debate. Many scientists believe that a Dynamo is driving it. This dynamo is thought to be caused by convection currents in the Earth's core, however there are problems with this theory. In the 1990's a nuclear scientist at the University of California wrote several papers which show that naturally occurring nuclear fission reactions might be taking place at the core of planets. This has tremendous implications. During my study I often toyed with, and examined the idea of nuclear fission reactions occurring inside planets. This new thinking opens up vast possibilities. Could the Great Red Spot on Jupiter for example be caused by a hole in the hollow crust of a planet, a planet which has a powerful nuclear reaction inside it?

source: http://www.hollowplanets.com/

Concentric spheres to describe the earth is apparently a very old idea... I wonder where Aristotle got it from? sunny
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