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PostSubject: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:32 pm

I so there is a Solar eclipse coming on July 11 2010.

On Sunday, 2010 July 11, a total eclipse of the Sun is visible from within a narrow corridor that traverses Earth's southern Hemisphere. The path of the Moon's umbral shadow crosses the South Pacific Ocean where it makes no landfall except for Mangaia (Cook Islands) and Easter Island (Isla de Pascua). The path of totality ends just after reaching southern Chile and Argentina. The Moon's penumbral shadow produces a partial eclipse visible from a much larger region covering the South Pacific and southern South America.



http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmono/TSE2010/TSE2010.html


There seems to be some evidence that backs up this theory.

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The purpose of this ad-hoc page is to collect quickly references to theories using constellations of the planets for prediction of earthquakes. Why? Because the big earthquake in Greece and Turkey (autumn 1999) took place after the total solar eclipse (= new moon constellation), the Sumatra Earthquake and Tsunami 2004 at full moon, and many more major earthquakes at the special full or new moon constellations. The russian scientists and others have observed that probability of major earthquakes is high at or 1..3 days after full or new moon when the line of gravitation crosses close to the tectonic plates boundaries


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%3AWikinaut/Moon-Earthquake-Theory


The two biggest things that affect the tides on earth are the Sun and the Moon. It would make sense that when things are all lined up that it would have the biggest affect.


One area of concern is in the gulf. With all of the oil that has come out will this cause a displacement of liquid, that may cause a tectonic movement and affect the New Madrid fault?

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:12 pm

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M
as you know i am into reading astrology and all that..one time to prove or disprove the affect of eclipses
on a natal chart..mostly for personal confirmation
i checked the ephemeris (book with all this in it) for when they had occured in my life
i was looking for info on me..and wow did i find it..long story-another time

anywho

in my search i also came across some info about astro carto graphy...it was very detailed and involved
but basically the person doing it (don't have that info anymore) told of how different places on earth related to different parts of the astrology wheel and had planetary rulers ..
depending on the angles of the eclipses to the ruling planets of these places yoiu could predict the effect of the eclipses...
of course you needed to know the geography of that part of earth..like i said very involved
but ..
his examples were amazingly right on for all kinds of different things happening where the eclipse would hit..

geeze i think i have jumbled that up..i'll try and find some more info on it

warp

ok.. found ti..it was a guy named Jim Lewis
here's the link if you are curious
http://www.astrocartography.co.uk/Map.htm


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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:22 pm

That would be great if you could find some more info on this.

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:30 pm

lol!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrocartography

Astrocartography (called "Astrogeography" in Europe in earlier years) is one of several methods of Locational Astrology, which purports to identify varying life conditions through differences in location. Developed and popularized by American astrologer Jim Lewis (1941-1995), astrocartography/astrogeography is a locational astrology system that focuses on elements of the relocated natal chart, with these factors indicated on a world map such as the "Astro*Carto*graphy map." Lewis' Astro*Carto*Graphy maps show all locations on the earth where planets were "Angular" (rising, setting, upper transit, lower transit) at the moment of a person's birth. An "angular" planet is basically one sitting in a conjunction with the starting house cusps of the 1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th houses, called the "angular houses." With Astrocartography, lines drawn on a world map show where these factors occur for an individual through relocation.

According to Astro*Carto*Graphy theory, if the person were born at any of these locations, the corresponding planet would be said to be prominent and influential in the chart. Jim Lewis took this basic astrological idea one step further by postulating that if a person later travels or visits such an angular location, the planet would have a similar prominent role in the person's experience of that location. These maps are widely used to plan for relocation or travel. As such, they are part of a general branch of astrology known as "relocation astrology". Other techniques used for this purpose include local space mapping, relocated birth charts, and city incorporation charts.

Lewis created the trademark "Astro*Carto*Graphy" to refer to his map. Other maps like the Lewis map were soon developed showing additional locational factors Lewis ignored. One example is the "Astrolocality Map" developed by Astro Computing Services of San Diego, which shows planetary sextiles, trines, and other aspects rather than conjunctions only. For example, having the planet Saturn in a "square" to the midheaven (and not just the conjunction as with Lewis), is considered to be a difficult location. Or having your Venus in "sextile" to the midheaven improves popularity, etc. The Lewis map ignores these locational aspects.


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http://www.astrocartography.co.uk/Map.htm

hahah.. and i looked on my shelf and there is my map and booklet..it was hiding under my stack of astrology calendars

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did a search and found more than i thought
the link was making the page wierd..so i deleted it..just go to google and type in astrocartography
also found a good place to get a free chart if you don't have one or have never seen one

http://www.zodiacal.com/chart.htm

this one is better..you only have to know where and they will give you the lat and long
knowing the time is also needed..
good luck butterfly
http://www.astro.com/



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and found lots of info..this one sounds like i am going to go read it..in a natal chart the least aspected planet as well as an empty
house have strong implications

Pablo Picasso relocated directly under the line of his Least-Aspected planet -- Primary Transcendental Sun -- positioned precisely above Paris in its Transcendental Imum Coeli position -- where he became the most celebrated painter in modern history.
http://www.dominantstar.com/astro02.htm

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:50 pm

lol!

dang nothing like following a good trail..

hey M..
check this one out

http://www.neptunecafe.com/earthquakes.html
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 pm

Great info.

I typed in the data about me and it was amazing how accurate it was.

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:29 am

lol!
just some more stuff to add here...eclipses have always been a research project for me
there is a lot more at this link if you are interested



The Eclipse of the Sun
The eclipse of the Sun has traditionally been viewed with dread over the ages, as the great giver of life seems inexplicably to disappear from the sky. Birds prepare for bed; the sky darkens in the middle of the day. It seems as though something dreadful is about to happen. Over the years, experience has shown us that old things come to an end (or are overthrown!) under a solar eclipse and a new beginning can be made. The effect on the world of eclipses has been seen to be generally felt for some six months, until the next eclipse then restructures the cosmic energies.

Astrologically, solar eclipses signify the fall of the mighty (or at least, they're in big trouble!). Depending where in the zodiac the eclipse occurs, stress is always placed on the matters governed by that sign, or sector of the zodiac. A powerful Solar Eclipse can create massive havoc, in accordance with other aspects in the heavens at the time, as can be clearly seen by the trail of earthquakes and other disasters associated with the Solar Eclipse and Grand Cross of August 1999.

At a more personal level, the solar eclipse can have a big effect on our personal lives when it occurs in conjunction with one of our natal planets, especially our natal Sun, Moon, or Ruling Planet. Other important chart factors, such as Moon's Nodes, Ascendant, Mid-heaven, or Part of Fortune can also have a very significant effect when impacted by a solar eclipse. Where the eclipse falls in the chart is significant, as the energies expressed by its house placement will show the areas of life that are affected by the new beginning that is implied.

Total Solar Eclipse in Cancer on July 11th, 2010
The second solar eclipse of 2010 is a total eclipse of the Sun, at the New Moon in Cancer on July 11th—the climax of the FIFA World Cup. Football fans can expect some real excitement, even though the eclipse will not be visible in South Africa. A total eclipse is when the whole of the eclipsed body of the Sun is blocked out and darkened. This eclipse, although total, will not be seen by many people, as most of its pathway lies over the vast expanses of the South Pacific Ocean. It makes no landfall except for Mangaia (Cook Islands), Easter Island (Isla de Pascua) and several isolated atolls. The umbra, the path of totality, ends just after reaching southern Chile and Argentina. The much broader path of the Moon's penumbral shadow produces a partial eclipse visible from a larger region covering the South Pacific and southern South America. Unfortunately no eclipse is visible from the rest of the world.


Easter Island, or Rapa Nui (Isla de Pascua), South Pacific
The central eclipse path begins in the South Pacific about 700 km southeast of Tonga at 18:15 UT. Travelling northeast, the track misses Rarotonga—the largest and most populous of the Cook Islands—by just 25 km. The first landfall occurs at Mangaia, where the total eclipse lasts 3 minutes 18 seconds with the Sun 14° above the horizon.

The southern coastline of Tahiti lies a tantalizing 20 km north of the eclipse path, so only experiences a deep partial eclipse at 18:28 UT. Several cruises are already scheduled to intercept the umbral shadow from Papeete, Tahiti's fabled capital, in French Polynesia.

Greatest eclipse occurs in the South Pacific at 19:33:31 UT. At this moment, the Moon's shadow passes closest to Earth's center. The maximum totality is 5 minutes 20 seconds, with the Sun's altitude at 47°. The width of the eclipse path is 259 km. Continuing across the vast Pacific, the umbral shadow' encounters Easter Island, one of the most remote locations on Earth. From the capital, Hanga Roa, totality lasts 4 minutes 41 seconds with the Sun 40° above the horizon (20:11 UT). The 3,800 inhabitants of the isle are accustomed to tourism, but the eclipse is expected to bring record numbers to this unique destination.

The Moon's shadow sweeps across another 3700 km of open ocean before beginning its final landfall along the rocky shores of southern Chile at 20:49 UT. The shadow is now an elongated ellipse and its increasing ground velocity brings with it a corresponding decrease in the duration of totality. It is mid-winter in the Andes, so clouds and high mountain peaks threaten to block views of the total eclipse. Nevertheless some hearty eclipse observers will find Argentina's tourist village of El Calafate a prime destination for the eclipse. The Sun's altitude is only 1° during the 2 minute 47 second total phase, but the lake may offer an adequate line-of-sight to the eclipse hanging just above the rugged Andes skyline.


Cancer, by Barbara Nagel The path ends in southern Argentina, when the Moon's deep umbral shadow slips off the Earth's surface as it returns to space at 20:52 UT. Over the course of 2 hours 40 minutes or so, the umbra travels along a track approximately 11,100 km long that covers 0.48% of Earth's surface area. For more detailed info from Fred Espenak on the path of the eclipse, please click here. Or you can view some excellent images here.

Check out this fabulous animation of the eclipse, on http://www.shadowandsubstance.com/
For more on the science of eclipses, see Fred Espenak's NASA Eclipse Home Page...
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse.html


Eclipse in Cancer
This eclipse occurs at 19°24' of Cancer, the sign of the Crab, tightly conjunct the malefic Fixed Star, Wasat (δ geminorum), a star of Saturn (karma; restriction; sorrow) and Mars (violence; action; passion; warfare) on the midriff of the Immortal Twin, Pollux, son of Jupiter. Wasat is especially significant as it is almost on the ecliptic (the path of the Sun), so is more powerful than we might expect, even though it is only a 3.5 magnitude star. Some view it as the elbow of Castor, the Mortal Twin, but it seems more to me to be part of Pollux, the "Heartless Judge". It is interesting that the planet Pluto, which plays a major part in this eclipse season, was discovered close to this star on Feb 18th 1930, by Clyde Tombaugh. Wasat is a malevolent influence, awakening violence and destructiveness as a first principle, governing chemicals, poisons, and gas. Fits with Pluto rather well! People will tend to be pessimistic under this influence, though will be swayed by a clear, authoritative voice. Those born under this star may find prominence in public affairs.

The eclipse is also conjunct a star of lesser malevolence, Muliphein, in Canis Major, the Great Dog. Although it is a star of Venus, this does not necessarily make it easygoing, but under current aspects, more likely to raise violent and dangerous passions. Be sure to watch out for dog-bites. However, it does have a good heart, so may mitigate the fire and wrath of the cosmic mood in this period. Robson says Canis Major is connected by the Cabbalists with the Hebrew letter Tzaddi and the 18th Tarot Trump, "The Moon". So the Sun and Moon are awakened and according to Manilus "it barks forth flame, raves with its fire, and doubles the burning heat of the Sun. When it put its torch to the earth and discharges its rays, the earth foresees its conflagration and tastes its ultimate fate..." A touch melodramatic perhaps, but it doesn't it give you the shivers!


The Moon, Rider-Waite The asteroid Juno is conjunct the eclipse and also Wasat, but interestingly, the eclipse Uranus (disruption) is retrograde and exactly conjunct President Obama's natal Juno. Juno, the wife of Jupiter, can be fierce and is bound by a sense of duty and social obligation. Her dark side also rules such things as divorce, and separation, infidelity and open conflict between partners. Will the pressure tell on his marriage? Or will he face the issues of compatibility, receptivity to others, mutual sharing, trust, jealousy, possessiveness and power struggles..? Uranus and Jupiter were conjunct this point in early June 2010, but moved on past it only to turn retrograde subsequently. Since Juno governs such things as contracts and binding agreements, will these unravel, once Jupiter turns retrograde too? Jupiter recrosses this point during the first ten days of September while retrograde, then hits it again travelling forwards in the last fortnight of January 2011. Obama's public and private commitments will come under scrutiny, so let us hope he can maintain his integrity and his wife stands by her man.

America and Europe
Both the US chart and the EC chart are buffeted by the eclipses, with Saturn (restriction, control, sorrow, karma, the past, the masses) rising within 2 minutes of the EC ascendant (29°27' Virgo) and conjunct the mid-heaven of the US Silby chart, again almost to the minute. The ascendant stands for the sense of selfhood of the community and the way it projects itself to the world. The self-image of the community is hit for six. The mid-heaven stands for the leadership and the way the nation is seen by the world, as opposed to the way it would like to be seen, represented by the ascendant. A lot of pressure is on. Interestingly, eclipse Saturn is closely conjunct the ascendant of the new British Prime Minister, David Cameron, and Mars in the Solar Eclipse is exactly conjunct his natal Pluto at 19°07' Virgo, receiving a powerful aspect from the Solar Eclipse itself., which is at 19°19' of Cancer. He will no doubt be shocked by the situation this once-great nation has got itself into, once he is fully briefed by the Civil Service mandarins. Everything comes together at once this year!

Uranus and Jupiter in the first degrees of Aries are in opposition to Saturn. Jupiter's gifts often bear hidden twists or heavy responsibilities, and when opposed to Saturn, suggest that actions or hangovers from the past drag back the progressive forces, or those that wish to be seen as progressive. Leaders will seek to form partnerships to move forward, but the masses will resist their marvellous solutions, perhaps even to the point of rebellion, or revolution. Uranus adds a potent element of uncertainty, marking the catastrophic and disruptive influence of those over whom we have no control. The Dragon's Tail (the Moon's south node), which implies loss and karmic fruition is conjunct the US Sun. Eclipse Neptune is retrograde, right on the US Moon, showing that the general public has no idea of the seriousness of the situation and is still living in a dream world, though they might be forced to wake up thanks to these aspects. Ugh. Not a pretty sight.

Okay, we get the picture, but what will happen on Wall Street? This is a key factor in the ongoing financial crisis that is still gripping the world, despite the apparent easing earlier from October 2009 to April 2010, when Saturn was in the sign of its exaltation, Libra. Well, now stern Saturn has moved back into calculating Virgo, thanks to a retrograde phase that began in January 2010. The collapse and bank-run on Northern Rock, the big British bank, that began and prefigured the horrorshow, was triggered by the entry of Saturn into Virgo in September 2007. Northern Rock was the first of the dominoes to fall, followed by even bigger collapses once Jupiter entered Capricorn in December 2007 and Pluto entered Capricorn in January 2008—and we all know what happened in 2008/2009.


Wall Street Trader What About Wall Street?
When we look at the Wall Street chart (NY, May 17, 1792) we see that during this eclipse phase, Saturn is conjunct the Moon's north node and Uranus is conjunct the Moon's south node. Jupiter is also conjunct the south node, and the significance of this must not be underestimated, as the opposition of Saturn and Jupiter at the Aries Point (in the first degree of Cardinal Signs) is a very major event. When you add disruptive Uranus into the mix we must be ready for some very unusual events, which seem to come out of the blue. Uranus last entered Aries 75 years ago, in 1935! Remember, you heard it here first...

The Lunar Eclipse falls exactly across the axis of speculation (5th and 11th house cusps) within a few minutes. This is very close to exactly square the Wall Street nodes (and the Saturn/Uranus/Jupiter opposition), making a powerful and stressful Grand Cross. The Solar Eclipse is conjunct Wall Street's Part of Fortune, square its Moon and Saturn, and in aspect to its Mars. Eclipse Mars is conjunct Wall Street Mars, which is itself aspected by the eclipse Juno. Wall Street has a Mars Return in this phase, which leads up to the Cardinal Climax chart of July 31, where Saturn and Mars are conjunct in the first degree of Libra, opposing Uranus, Jupiter and the Moon in Aries.

This is very ominous for the financial community, though it probably does not mean the collapse of civilisation as we know it. Venus (money) is conjunct Wall Street ascendant, though opposed to Chiron. This may mean financial healing, through the lancing of old financial wounds that the community and the world has been carrying for far too long. This said, eclipse Neptune (delusion; deception) is square Wall Street's Sun and midheaven, so delusions of grandeur will still dog them. It will be hard for traders and bankers to get a clear picture, as the view is very foggy, but if they read this, they will know to be ultra-cautious and to take a very conservative position. Head for safe havens and bulk up on gold. This really needs a complete article to itself, but hopefully I will find time to expand on it when I write about the Cardinal Climax, an article which should be on line in the near future.

It is also instructive to see how the eclipses strike the chart of the Federal Reserve (Washington DC, Dec 23, 1913). During the Lunar Eclipse, the Moon and Pluto are conjunct the Fed's Sun and Ceres; Mercury and Sun are conjunct the Fed's natal Pluto, so in effect, the eclipse is mirroring one of the deep contradictions in the Fed's chart, the need for complete control. We'll be flooded with propaganda, as the Fed struggles to maintain its position. Disruptive Uranus is rising in the Fed chart, within minutes of the noon ascendant, opposed by Saturn, suggesting the collapse of institutional structures, possibly through unfavourable legislation (as Jupiter is in on the act also, rising conjunct Uranus). The Solar Eclipse is exactly conjunct the Fed's Mars (action—will the troops be called in?) and exactly inconjunct the Fed's Venus (money; foreign dealings as Venus is conjunct Mercury in the Fed's ninth house). Eclipse Mars is exactly conjunct the Fed's south node (loss) and exactly square its Venus! This energises the inborn T-square in the Fed's chart, a very stressful aspect. But that gives us a fair idea of what to expect in the public and financial arenas. The Fed is also having its Chiron Return, so it will have to shed some karmic baggage and prepare for a big restructuring. Chiron at the eclipse is exactly conjunct the Fed's Vesta, so it will have to do some housekeeping. This action is happening in the Fed's twelfth house of secrets and sorrows, so expect some revelations that many will find hard to believe.

How all this affects you as an individual depends on where it falls in your own chart. Check our links at the top of the page to get some idea. Check your Sun sign and if you know it, your Rising Sign. You can calculate your rising sign here (if you know your time of birth).

Solar eclipses like this one don't often pass over populated areas. That's a good thing! However, when they do, they appear to have significant disruptive effects on the people and nations concerned (e.g., economic or political crises, civil unrest). Solar Eclipses also seem either to trigger or amplify natural events in the regions they affect (e.g., severe weather, earthquakes). Whether this effect is an astrological one or not, is a moot point, though recent scientific work on the effects of the Moon on earthquakes and other terrestrial phenomena is interesting. No doubt they would hasten to deny any astrological effect! See my article on Moon Wobbles. The eclipse being in Cancer means that people with Cardinal signs (Cancer; Libra; Capricorn; Aries) featured in their birthcharts are more likely to be affected. The next eclipse of the Sun will be on January 4, 2011, but it will be 29 months before the next total Solar Eclipse on Nov 13, 2012.

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:18 am

Leave it to sky to dig up some interesting data! Cool stuff.

On a personal note I've had a download of information on solar eclipses and had have visions of 3 of the 4 I was supposed to receive. The upcoming one was the last of the 4. How it ties into what is happening now I'm not sure only that it does tie in.

Sorry OP for going off on a tangent.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:51 am

Nice work detective Sky.....LOL and good links
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:41 pm

moon walk

hey L..i don't think that was a tangent
but i sure would like to hear more... if you can
when you say

I've had a download of information on solar eclipses and had have visions of 3 of the 4 I was supposed to receive. The upcoming one was the last of the 4.

what do you mean? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 am

Yes Sky I too would love to hear more about the visions. I hope you can share it with us Lightning as it sounds most interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:59 am

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can't get this dang vid to copy here

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/player/news/space-technology-news/solar-eclipse-july11-vin.html

it is noting that this is the first solar eclipse to cross easter island in 1400 years...
now there is a place to watch for something to happen or change
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:43 pm

Two Earthquakes Strike Chile July 14 2010: No New Damage (Maps)

http://www.nowpublic.com/environment/two-earthquakes-strike-chile-july-14-2010-no-new-damage-maps-2640426.html





Picture of Solar Eclipse on July 11 over the Andes mountains.





Jim Berkland says there is a 3 day window for an earthquake after a solar eclipse.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:26 pm

moon walk

thanks Mic

i haven't had a chance to follow up on that..
but i was really expecting to see something be "unearthed" on easter island
maybe later
..i've been watching the sun and moon on thier corse..dang
just plain-ass wierd anymore
last night the moon set at 9:10 due west..tonight it was heading south and set around 10:30
scratch ..i got some pics..but feel like i am missing something

thanks again
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and that last is a really cool pic.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:51 pm

Okay sky now you are in my head. I was looking at a picture of Easter Island the last couple of days and staring at the topical view of how the shadows crossed each other and kept thinking about the solar eclipse and the island.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:31 am

I actually saw a TV show tonight on the National Geographic channel that showed the Easter Island Eclipse, it was awesome to see.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:23 am

lol!

hey L
what'sya got on that head of yours..a swingin door...???
lettin everyone in like that.. EX
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:26 am

I guess sky...I dunno? bigw At least it's you guys here must be I can't defend against the soul group! butterfly
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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:38 am

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no defences needed sister

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PostSubject: Re: Is there a correlation between Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:09 am

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